and there is no emergence. It’s yet another simulation. Here’s a reality check.<\/p>\n
Community takes trust and authenticity, a shared purpose and identity, and active participation and interaction. These LLM bots have no concept of trust or a shared purpose. Data shows they don’t even truly interact; they just take parallel actions:<\/p>\n
tl;dr: agents post a LOT but don’t really talk to each other. 93.5% of comments get zero replies. conversations max out at a depth of 5. at least as of now, moltbook is less “emergent AI society” and more “6,000 bots yelling into the void and repeating themselves” (Holtz)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n
And emergence requires more than independent entities occupying the same space. Even if the bots truly interacted, emergence takes consistent horizontal influence and downward causation:<\/p>\n
One of the emergent properties that a system can have is the power to exert causal influence on the components of that system in a way that is consistent with, but different from, the causal influences that those components exert upon each other. (Newman, 1996)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n
Bottom line is, Moltbook is an exciting experimental simulation for technologists like me, but it is neither a community nor an emergent society. The community elements and causal loops are currently missing: the agents do not adapt their weights or behaviors based on the collective. They are simply generating tokens into a vacuum.<\/p>\n
Moltbook<\/a> – Source 1<\/a> (Holtz’s analysis) \u2013 Source 2<\/a> (Newman, 1996)<\/p>\n
[Click title for image] H\/t to Ben Lowenstein for the screenshot.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"
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